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Dear Mr/Ms Anonymous,
Judge my self 1st you said?? i do not put my self on the same level as this "people"
i don see a prob when my friend washing his cloth at my place when he move out and do not have washing machine...not only once or twice, but many time.
please tell me how much usage of water or electricity to wash 1 round of cloth which not even full load???
Is there anything wrong helping people?
When they move to this new place, i help her a bit... so i need to charge her kah?? Think about it.
if i wanna obey rule... why should i help i just rent the room, so i only take care of my own room.
maybe you do not have this kind of friend or maybe you have the same mentality. I do not judge people without a reason. Not only me but most of my friend seen this kind of people "ALOT"
I really not sure what this ppl think or what is in their brain. if you said i'm wrong.. here another story why i said "Chinese Act" People are so calculative.
i went out with a bunch of fren (around 5-6) for dinner, basically this girl is the only chinese act in the group who wanted to hang out with us. So as usual we do not have any problem to hang out with new fren so we invited her along. So normally this is how we pay for the bill
1) we will pay for our own food and share the tax.
2) one of us will pay for the full amount then next round someone else will pay,and it goes around and round
so basically this time we decide to pay for our own food and share the tax. Then this "girl" stood up and said this is not fair.. we should pay for our own food and taxes. Do you calculate that with you fren??? come on la... how much can you pay extra for tax?? and i got to know that this girl and the bunch of her chinese act fren do that when they go and hang out.
this is not because we all are rich or anything, all of us is not rich, but we are friend and hang out time is suppose to be happy time is not calculating taxes you moron.
if this is not calculative what do you call it??
Sorry... i guess our mentality are different. As a human being we do not want to be calculative or selfish because we do not know when we need that person help.
Tuesday, June 16, 2009
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Dear Mr Jerry,
If u think that those so called 'Chinese Act People' are very calculative then you are wrong again. For example, the girl only wanted to pay for her own meals and taxes which is reasonable fair. Even friends can take the opportunity to eat a lot, order lots of meal and end up paying less in the end. Don't you think it is fair for someone that eat less and pay more????? I understand that u r not rich nor poor but money is equally important for some people here. For your info, the so called 'Chinese Act People' ve been in m'sia for a long time and succeeded to be somebody in future!
Oh yeh,
Do you think that you won't ask your lovely GF to wash your clothes again the next time???? Think about it.
The housemate did a very good job by reminding your gf not to do so again next time :)
Have a good day Mr Jerry
I do agreed on what on this anonymous saying(N i fully support u on this). As normally friends will take advantages on us without us knowingly. Not to say we are calculative or what but this is their own hard earn money and we want to spend it wisely, i do encounter that when my frends order a few dishes and end up we pay more taxes. try u calculate and see how much would it cost u if u guys went out for a meal a number of times n multiply the sum of taxes u pay. it will come up to a tank of petrol (maybe more or less). Aint that ur money?
For example, i have a frend who borrows money from me i tot she's in need so i helped n saying that will pay once got money but that day will never come. aint this consider taking advantages of ur friends? unless that person remembers to pay back else they will just forget n pretend nothing have happen.
there's alot of ways to measure a friend. but certain things have to be calculative some might not. It depends on certain individual.
About the washing cloth part, Y not u n ur gf move in together n rent a house or apartment all by urself so that u will not need to face all this problem? problem solve,Bingo!
Pinky
Dear Ms Pinky,
What you have said is very true and thanks for the support.
It is very unfair to say someone as "Chinese Act People".
We are all Malaysians and We should always respect each other.
Cheers
What's wrong with paying a little more tax. It's not that much money. Come on la among friends what's wrong with a little give or take. If you feel your friend is really taking advantage then dont ajak him out anymore la. Don't la divide the tax up to the last cent. I know it's the politically correct way but what message are you sending to your other friends by insisting to split the tax?
As for the washing thing it's also not that much expense to wash one round of clothing what. Just for that one event how much water he can use up? It's not like Jerry's taking advantage by washing every week all month so what's the big deal? If he's doing that then maybe the landlord got the reason to say something la.
Anyway in a nutshell, difference in culture la. And just fyi this thinking sucks. You guys need to be more laid back and not be so wound up over every little detail. Think about other people some time, it's not all about you.
Dear Anonymous,
Let me say this again, i do not put my self as the same level as these people. Let me ask you something, when you hang out with you fren, do you calculate every single cent with your fren? if this is not calculative then wat do you call it?? money management?
Sorry la... in my group of best fren we do not take advantage with each other. We do know this is our hard earn money, i also working.. but if you hang out with fren to those nice fine dinning once a month how much can the tax be? 20? 30? 40? 50? think about that.
Btw, this is the 1st time i ask my gf to wash after 2 years staying there. is that too much? i only request people help when i really really in need.
You were saying about taking advantage. Do you know that my gf and his indian fren is paying more for the rent and some how she manage to cover part of her own rent? so since she is taking advantage on us. by washing 1 round of cloth do you think is too much?
The problem with this people, they only think for them self which i called that selfish.
What do you mean respect for others? have you study in local university before?these place is where this chinese people are proud of. This is the place where u can see chinese people looking down at other races. my fren got
"boikot" because of 2 reason.
1) unable to speak chinese and 2)
mixing with other races.
Do you call that "respect others"
if that is the definition of respect others, the you are on the same boat as this Chinese Act People.
Dear Pinky,
If you saying "Normally Friends will take advantages on us" then you have a bunch of lousy friend. sorry to say that, but if they are truly your friend this will not happen. And if you want to calculate every single cent with your friend then you better stay at home and don go out. you see when we went for holiday trip or what ever la we doing, example i pay for the food during lunch, mutual understanding between fren they will pay for dinner and so on. if you don have this kind of fren then i feel sorry for you.
i really cannot beleive what i'm reading here where you have to think of the sum of tax you paid in the past will come up to a tank of petrol.OMG... i bet non of my fren will think or come a cross that.
I think i can see the different of 2 community or group mentality, the way of thinking and attitude between chinese act and also english act.
Mannnnn.. this goes to show that all you "anonymous ppl" have got a bunch of lousy friends. Maybe the main tenant has also got lousy friends which justifies her reaction. Such a pity.
I know this is such a petty issue but i hope one day when you guys are faced with dire moments in need of help i hope you have real friends to lean on and not those who are as calculative as yourselves.
All this calculative behavior is like a plaque that if ppl continue reacting the same way they are treated. It will never end.And as for referring this to just "Chinese Act" (i think jerry meant chinese ED.)is very superficial. Malay, chinese, indian all also got... but isnt it odd that the chinese are the ones who are always affiliated with for being the scrooge?? go figure.
Hi to all,
Sorry if this statement or post sound racist when i said "Chinese Ed"
Maybe i should re- arrange the word or how i write it. But as i said earlier is not every Chinese education people but a certain group of this Chinese Ed..
Frankly speaking i do not have any problem about what we talking here with my other friend that from English Education.
basically i not trying to being racist because i'm also Chinese, if i trying to be racist of anything i would be talking about indian, malays or some other race.
however as i said before too, i do not say things without a prove, and every time we encounter this kind of thing it will always be Chinese Ed people. of cause again, i not saying everyone, because i do have Chinese Ed people that is not like that.
So i hope this will clear the air....
Cheers
Dear Mr Jerry and that Anonymous fella,
You guys are really making me laugh over the debate on calculative people, chinese ed people etc........ Let me tell you something. When it comes to money, every Cents are also money and A so called good friend can also betray a friendship over Money. Don't come and tell me that u ve never encounter it before and WHEN U TALK ABOUT MONEY! Yes it can be very important to someone that really needs it. I do agree with you that good friends will help each other when times are bad but people do take advantage over it. Bottom line is money is important for many of us and whether they want to be calculative over it, It is not for u to judge! Friends usually will understand each other.
peace...
you have a point there. As the saying goes" once bitten twice shy". But if you have been betrayed by a friend before means you dont want to ever have friends??.
As for money.. i do agree but it all boils down to give and take. if we are calculating taxes... how much more can it be?? 5% only la. takkan wan to scrooge until like that? plus if the tax is divided equally you'd be paying plus minus a few cents. Dont tell me you want to count till the last dime? we are not talking hundreds of ringgit here.. cents!!!
Ooolala
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